迈克尔·乔丹和勒布朗·詹姆斯之间的对比，球迷：场上场下都赢了！

迈克尔·乔丹的训练师蒂姆·格罗弗谈到迈克尔·乔丹和勒布朗·詹姆斯之间的对比：我们都听说过有人因为穿乔丹的鞋而被抢劫的故事。你有听说过有人因为一双勒布朗的球鞋而遭遇抢劫的故事吗？

·This means jordan wins on and off the field lmao

这意味着乔丹在场上场下都赢了，笑死我了

·I thought Bron fans started this whole thing lol “Bron better because he don’t gamble or cheat” or “Bron better because he started a school” lmao

我猜勒布朗的球迷又开始比了。他们可能会说：“勒布朗更好，因为他不赌博或欺骗”，或者“勒布朗更好，因为他创办了一所学校”，笑死我了

·Popularity, respect and demand is another argument for the GOAT status.

流行程度、尊重和需求是GOAT地位的另一个论证。

·MJ has more:

- Rings

- MVPs

- FMVPs

- DPOYs

- All-Defense

- Better Stats (per-game)

-九球体育-

- Better Clutch Stats

- Faced Tougher Playoff Competition

- Better Team Success

It's about way more than just the shoes.

乔丹还有更多：

-戒指

-MVP

-FMVP

-DPOY

-最佳防守阵容

-更好的数据（场均）

-更好的关键时刻数据

-面对更激烈的季后赛竞争

-更好的团队成就

这可不仅仅是球鞋。

·Try to calm down and phrase it the other way: yes, the trainer is right. Besides all the better stats and more accomplishments, MJ's shoes were also valued a lot more than lebron's, in the regular and black markets. MJ is the !

试着冷静下来，换种叙事方式：是的，训练师是对的。除了有更好的数据和更多的成就以外，乔丹的鞋不论在常规市面还是黑市上价值都大大超过勒布朗的，乔丹是GOAT！

·Shoes is all I’m giving em. I think even all the old heads is starting to admit it too. 16 bron and 18 bron showed us everything we needed to see

鞋子确实是一个方面。我认为即使老一辈的球迷也开始承认这一点。勒布朗在2016年和2018年展现了他的全部实力，让我们看到了需要看到的一切

·That's how insane they have gotten. The shoes are iconic not just because of mj,but the style, commercials & advertising by Nike.

这太令人疯狂了。这些鞋子之所以具有标志性，不仅仅因为迈克尔·乔丹本人，还有鞋子的设计风格，耐克的广告宣传等等。

·Everytime Jordan fans run out of arguments when it comes to BASKETBALL , they always run to his shoes or money its getting embarrassing ..

每当乔丹的球迷在篮球方面争论不过时，他们总是转向他的鞋子或财富，这让人感到尴尬..

·This can never be settled. Jordan, to many of us, was far better defensively. He was also a better playmaker. LJ def better 3 point shooter. They didn’t shoot ‘em much back then. I think mostly it’s LJ’s shameless self promotion and narcissism that turn us off that are old school

这个问题可能永远无法解决。对于很多人来说，乔丹在防守方面明显更出色。他也是一个更好的组织者。勒布朗的三分投射明显更好。但是在乔丹那个时代，并不像现在这样频繁扔三分。我认为大多数人对勒布朗的无耻的自我宣传和自恋感到反感，尤其是对于那些抱有传统观念的人。

·Scoring: LeBron

Playmaking: LeBron

Defense: LeBron

Rebounding: LeBron

IQ: LeBron

Shoes: MJ

得分：勒布朗

组织能力：勒布朗

防守：勒布朗

篮板：勒布朗

球商：勒布朗

鞋子：乔丹

·Lebron a better defender than MJ??

You dont know ball at all good grief.

勒布朗是比乔丹更好的防守者？？

你根本不懂球，真让人伤脑筋。

·So it's safer to wear Brons

所以穿勒布朗的鞋更安全

·we’re talking about shoes ?

我们讨论的是鞋子？

·Wow what an amazing argument!

哇，多么惊人的论调！

·He’s not wrong

他说的没错

·Ever hear of Lebron making such a bad investment that he had to sell his ownership interest to pay debt

你听说过勒布朗做了糟糕的投资，不得不出售他的球队所有权来还债吗？

·This isn’t about sneakers????

I guess Louis Vuitton is the greatest basketball player of all time.

这不是关于球鞋的问题吧？

那我猜路易威登是史上最伟大的篮球运动员。

·LeBron will never catch Kobe, don’t even talk about Jordan, this debate is laughable

勒布朗永远赶不上科比，别提乔丹，这种辩论真是可笑

·What does this even mean? That it's some kind of testament to Jordan's greatness that people were robbed for his shoes?

Laughable trash.

这能意味什么？人们因为他的鞋子被抢劫就是乔丹伟大的某种证明？

无稽之谈。

·What that gotta do on who’s a better player?

这对谁是更好的球员有什么影响？

·That’s a new one lol Y’all getting creative

这是一个新的观点，哈哈，我们正在尝试寻找不同的角度

·That’s not something to be proud of

这不是什么值得骄傲的事情

说实话，不知道该说点啥了